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June 2009


(Un)deniable Evidence

by James Wortman

A college professor takes on AIDS naysayers in his latest book.

Despite overwhelming scientific findings, some people remain convinced that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS and that antiretrovirals are toxic poisons. Led by vocal skeptics such as former South African President Thabo Mbeki and the late Christine Maggiore, AIDS denialism continues to flourish, especially with the help of the Internet.

To counter this strengthening movement, Seth Kalichman, PhD, a social psychology professor at the University of Connecticut, wrote Denying AIDS: Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, and Human Tragedy ($25, Copernicus Books), which examines AIDS denialism’s origin, agendas and potentially damaging influence on HIV prevention and treatment.

Kalichman believes that the scientific community’s decision to stay quiet over the years has only fueled the denialists’ power. “[For too long] scientists have believed that if you ignore the denialists, they will go away,” he told POZ. “The HIV community really has a role in combating this misinformation.”  
                     
All royalties will help the Family Treatment Fund provide AIDS meds for people living with HIV/AIDS in Africa.
 

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Audrey mueller, kansas city, mo., 2009-08-09 12:55:24
We need more information on aids. I know HIV can leed to aids.

Seth Kalichman, Connecticut, 2009-07-08 02:06:00
Attracting AIDS Deniers to the Poz site is too cool! Deniers usually fear that their IP address will be monitored by GSK if they visit Poz. So good for you AIDS Deniers for visiting here! You should check out some of the Most Popular Lessons… you just might be enlightened.

Jeton, Chelsea, New York, 2009-07-07 09:41:03
i go to GMHC here in NYC for years and have met persons with HIV who refuse to take meds, don't do recreational drugs and live "healthy" lifestyles...2 have since died of AIDS, several r visibly ill and 1 admits that doctors call him a "longterm non-progressor". having been full-blown myself while on a 'holistic' regime, i'll take my Prezista (etc) over the denialists any day. HIV-Denialists kill people with LIES....relentlessly.

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-07-05 13:58:45
jpn, If you have documented proof of said sero-negative-converters then please do share. However until then I am going to have to call BS on that claim. Perhaps you have references to show your holistic route works? I'm going to guess that instead of providing evidence, you are going to go on about a conspiracy to repress it. Am I correct?

jpn, , 2009-07-03 11:19:55
Poolde Stomper, even your name seems agressive. To call holistic therapies and those who promote them as clueless is arrongant an ignorant. It seems like you are trying to convince yourself here. I suggest you do some comprehesive research into med free treatment open mindedly and objectivly and get back with us. Hope you stay healthy in any case.

jpn, , 2009-07-03 11:11:48
While i don't know if hiv causes aids i was taught that thte progression to aids is maily in co factors in health.I know of several sero negative converters who did the alternative /holistic route with out meds. I beleive medication have value but will not be a cure. ther are just too many strains and mutation varients.

Frederick Wright, Tampa, 2009-07-02 14:44:03
Thier is one truth that I notice for antiretrovirals can cause toxic poisons for the evidence is clear on that fact. Just read the side effects on the new PREZISA Drug from Johnson and Johnson Family.

Rosssy, Montreal, 2009-06-30 11:25:21
I have been poz since 1987 and on drugs since 1990, starting with AZT. I have never had any complications. My T-4's are high and I have been undetectable for ten years now. I have a very healthy lifestyle and manage my stress. I truly believe without medication I would have died long ago.

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-06-19 21:44:19
For those interested in seeing what the HIV genome looks like, the authors' second paper is titled *Complete nucleotide sequence, genome organization, and biological properties of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 in vivo, evidence for limited defectiveness and complementation.* J Virol. 1992 Nov;66(11),6587-600. PMID is 1404605. The sequence is of one of the replication-competent proviruses found in the first paper.

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-06-19 16:45:36
The authors of the second paper also wrote a follow up in which the complete sequence of one of the replication-competent proviral clones can be found, all 9000+ bases of it. Keep in mind that in these papers they have shown productive infectious particles produced by these clones. Are you satisfied or will you make a classic denialist move and move the goal posts?

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-06-19 11:05:32
Here is one paper cloning full length HIV directly from plasma viral RNA. *Molecular Cloning of full-Length HIV-1 Genomes Directly from Plasma Viral RNA. Fang et al.* and one for direct DNA *Molecular characterization of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 cloned directly from uncultured human brain tissue- identification of replication-competent and -defective viral genomes. Li Y et al.*. Mind you, this doesn't mean I believe you are sincerely interested in learning.

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-06-19 10:25:10
You need to reread the paper. Montagnier showed the existence of a NEW RETROVIRUS in his first paper, nothing more. He found evidence of a retrovirus antigenically distinct from the only other two human RVs known at the time, HTLV I and II. That makes it a NEW RV. Blind controls are not done in experiments like this. You misunderstand the research process. Primers are designed based on HIV's genome sequences just like human gene primers are designed on human gene sequences. Standard mol bio.

Dragon Warrior, , 2009-06-18 11:40:04
Poodle, Did Montagnier use anything specific to find HIV or not? He said he didn't. If not, then I don't see how his controls were proper. I mentioned blind studies because HIV is too important to not have them. With proper controls, Montagnier could have blinded himself. I looked briefly and found no proof the full HIV genome was ever found in the fresh cells of an AIDS patient. Perhaps you know of a study? I asked for proof primers came from HIV cause critics say no proof they are specific.

Rodney, Sydney, 2009-06-16 19:46:16
I knew Christine and her husband Robin. I attended her meetings in West Hollywood.She was convincing and passionate in her belief that AIDS was a myth. I started on medication,without telling her, and my health was transformed. I quietly told my story at her meetings but sadly was only successful in persuading one person to try their own test by going on to medications.I often wonder how many people from those meetings died unecessarily .

Poodle Stomper, , 2009-06-14 22:27:34
It is fine to believe something if you have evidence for it. Studies have already shown that drugs are not responsible for AIDS, with or without HIV. While I’m glad you are doing fine, two years is not enough time to declare this definitively. Many denialists have gone the holistic route, for example Maggiore, and still die. She had healthy food, no HAARTs or drugs or alcohol, ect. Belief is one thing, evidence another.

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