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as you will, Richard, but you underlined a continuing weakness in Prevention advocacy: the perceived need for tribalist, denialist, quasi-religious rhetoric. HIV respects none of these things, only real access or lack of access to human bloodstreams. thus, only Real Talk has a chance of helping to stop it. only Real Talk can truly guide those at risk in selecting the best Prevention modality FOR THEM. my activist years showed me that many advocates' own needs biased their judgement and advice.
Jeton, it does make great sense to me what you say here. I could, though, express my own doubts on condom, PrEP, and PEP efficacy claims. But I prefer not to do so because I don't want to undermine their actual usefulness and their actual use.
Richard, it's also possible they recruited underendowed men who performed with more gentle rigor. it's entirely conceivable that certain men are more likely to volunteer for condom studies than other men. thanks for noting the potential effects of alcohol and drug use, those are two more factors in addition to the many potential factors I noted. factors I highly doubt the study authors could control for...if they even wanted to do such controls. I suspect they commenced this study biased, tho.
Jeton, perhaps there was no alcohol or drug use in their study.
lol, Condom propaganda is back in force. go to a public cruising area or a pro-condom/condom-only sex party and watch this study get refuted. condom failure varies by many parameters, some kinetic (how hung, how hard, how tight, how shaped, how forceful, how angled) and some practical (how lubed, kind of lube, how evaporative, how attentive the partners). "Less than one percent failure"? laughable...and lies have a cost. push what's available, but INNOVATE CONDOMS THAT PERFORM/*FEEL* BETTER.
RichardUK
Jeton, properly fitted condoms work very effectively - and in more ways than one. Less well fitted ones still work well, too, but not as well obviously. Thus, it would be wrong to jettison the use of condoms even if you can't fit them on well. It's not quasi religious to suggest condom use because of this. Condoms will also prevent faecal transference to most of the penis. Who wants faecal matter on their penis? And of course it can be very useful to use other means of protection alongside.
November 25, 2019 • UK