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Does Undetectable Equal Uninfectious?

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John

If 2 HIV poz folks get together, both are long term undetectable and healthy otherwise, how safe are they to NOT use condoms between themselves.

September 30, 2008 Clearlake

Donald Baxter

I would be curious to know more about the RI study. Were the women who "shed" HIV measured as undetectable? If so, from where was that virus coming? If there's no detectable virus, how can measurable virus "shed?"

September 22, 2008 Iowa City, Iowa

Susan

An update. I see an excellent HIV doctor in Rhode Island whose area of expertise is HIV+ Women's Health Issues and Research. She completed a study a few years ago showing that there at certain times women with HIV "Shed" - are infectious. Every woman is different as to WHEN this happens (say, during a month-long period), and there is no pattern or way of knowing WHEN a woman is "shedding", so that's what's so tricky about being infectious, you can't plan it.

September 17, 2008 Boston, MA

Thomas

This is encouraging for the simple fact that I believe it would help with the HIV/AIDS stigma positive folks face. More studies should be done to absolutely confirm the boast. It should not be seen as license to go out and have unprotected sex. I cannot believe how irresponsible people still are even after having been infected. If we know one thing, it's that the virus is tricky and sneaky. Don't take chances, period. Wear a f#$%ing condum! Protect yourself and your partner.

September 16, 2008

Thomas

It seems logical to me that a person is less infectious if treated close to time of s-conversion,with a solid history of adherence and undetectable V-LOAD However, a person's virus would need to be "undetectable" at the exact time of contact. "Undetectable" is an assumed status it is not known if this status is consistent from one day to the next. The v-load can rise and fall increasing the persons infectiousness. So there is decreased risk in "undetectable" folks in my opinion. tricky

September 11, 2008 Chelsea, MA

Jim

Come on people. Some of you are saying that this statement is the cause of the rise of HIV+ in some populations. This statement is only a few months old and has a least a scientifically significant researched conclusion. The HIV+ rise in people of color, people less than 30 years of age and people older than 50 years of age has clearly been demonstrated to be a matter of social morays and drug use, long before this article was released.Get a signed legal statement every time you have sex,+ or -.

September 3, 2008 Van Nuys

Tim Sanders

So, in layman's terms, what the EF does this mean. In the state of Nevada, there were just a few years ago, 7 men serving prison time for giving blow jobs to HIV- men being fully informed of the HIV+ person's sero status. The Swiss arguement has been drafted in briefs in an attempt to get these men released. Is it true or is it not true?!!

September 3, 2008 Reno, NV.

sexy0d

I still think you should still use protection unless your are with your own partner and u both are just hiv poz and no other STI's

August 18, 2008 milwaukee

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